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Outerknown’s founders jumped on a Zoom call on Earth Day, attempted to record it, and our Art Director attempted to edit it. We thought their conversation would be relevant right now, not just because they discuss challenges around building clothes sustainably, but also because the discussion hit on how Outerknown came to be, how Kelly is feeling about it 5 years in, and where the brand is headed.

(These two are used to communicating virtually while Kelly travels; they’ve been doing it for years, but they don’t normally record it, so bear with us.)